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but the president of the united states was stable, he was flat, he was repetitive. it's the same thing we've been hearing over and over again, and i think it was a real let- down at the end of the convention, and i think that has given quite frankly the republicans another chance, really, to turn this thing around and win this thing. so i think he could have closed the sale, the president could have, if it had been a tremendous speech and a program in there and something to look forward to but it was the same old speech. >> you think he was melancholy? >> you know, john, i don't know what it was, but he started off, and i just said this is boring. this is not the barack obama that you know -- he wasn't the barack obama of denver, and it certainly wasn't the barack obama of boston. >> was he going through the motions? did you feel that way? >> i think what's happened he's been on that road for a year saying the same things over and over again, and it just didn't seem fresh or exciting or gripping. >> ah, those republicans will never be pleased. [ laughter ] >> the im
but the president of the united states was stable, he was flat, he was repetitive. it's the same thing we've been hearing over and over again, and i think it was a real let- down at the end of the convention, and i think that has given quite frankly the republicans another chance, really, to turn this thing around and win this thing. so i think he could have closed the sale, the president could have, if it had been a tremendous speech and a program in there and something to look forward to but...
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states. we can't get them off the books. thank goodness they are in court. the courts are overturning some of these. we are working to make sure people know what they have to do and get people to the polls. we need to get people out. >> belva: another base that could help the favor of barack obama is the youth vote says jennifer yongley. >> i'm here at the dnc. 52% are from california and they are really excited about that. we are excited to knock on the doors and vote for obama and proposition 30. if not, tuition will go up more. >> belva: earlier in the week, delegates joined local charlotte residents to help kickoff the convention with labor day parade. it was an opportunity for democrats to draw attention to support for organized labor in the right-to-work state. tim paulson is the democratic chair of the party. >> we are talking about the good wages and pensions we are talking about medicare and medi-cal and social security. we are here to make sure the country is fired up about it. ther
states. we can't get them off the books. thank goodness they are in court. the courts are overturning some of these. we are working to make sure people know what they have to do and get people to the polls. we need to get people out. >> belva: another base that could help the favor of barack obama is the youth vote says jennifer yongley. >> i'm here at the dnc. 52% are from california and they are really excited about that. we are excited to knock on the doors and vote for obama and...
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states. it is not our business. the haqqanis are not pakistani nationals. we will continue to work with all international partners, including the u.s., in combating extremism and terrorism." how the new designation will affect u.s./pakistan relations isn't clear. the relationship is already strained after american troops killed osama bin laden, and u.s. drones continue to strike pakistan, even killing the son of a haqqani leader last month. fair says the situation could get worse. >> there have been several terrorist groups operating in pakistan with state support that we long ago designated as a foreign terrorist organization. pakistan did nothing. in some cases, it banned those we pretended to not notice and they pretended to not care. so in one scenario, this could be just like these designations. "we know what you are doing, we are going to pretend that you are not because we have work to get done in afghanistan." at the other extreme, this could open the way for the congress to say, "wel
states. it is not our business. the haqqanis are not pakistani nationals. we will continue to work with all international partners, including the u.s., in combating extremism and terrorism." how the new designation will affect u.s./pakistan relations isn't clear. the relationship is already strained after american troops killed osama bin laden, and u.s. drones continue to strike pakistan, even killing the son of a haqqani leader last month. fair says the situation could get worse. >>...
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their grand interests unite them. in october 2010, the secretary of state hosts the u.s./northern ireland economic conference in washington. three weeks earlier, bill clinton had traveled at her request to northern ireland. >> working on the irish peace process was one of the two or three great honors of my life and i thank you, all of you, for proving that peace is possible. >> as president, bill clinton played an historic role in ending decades of sectarian violence and terror between northern ireland's protestant and catholic communities. clinton jump-starts peace talks between the warring factions beginning by telephone from the oval office. the final agreement, called the good friday accord, was history changing. >> the parties have made brave decisions. they have chosen hope over hate. the promise of the future over the poison of the past. >> the whole good friday accords, how are they looking now? >> i think, you know, there have been some tensions but i really believe that the fact that the two leaders here are focused together on this economic problem proves that
their grand interests unite them. in october 2010, the secretary of state hosts the u.s./northern ireland economic conference in washington. three weeks earlier, bill clinton had traveled at her request to northern ireland. >> working on the irish peace process was one of the two or three great honors of my life and i thank you, all of you, for proving that peace is possible. >> as president, bill clinton played an historic role in ending decades of sectarian violence and terror...
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billions of dollars of aid from the united states, number one. number two where is the united states in the international community providing support to the international relief fund organization such as the red cross to provide the relief necessary. i said in my last article in the "huffington post," i'm not in favor of boots on the ground, but we could certainly provide angels in the air. we could provide for humanitarian support. this is where i'm most unhappy about the obama administration's failure on syria. it's bad enough that it does not have a policy to deal with the strategic issues, but why can't we do more on the humanitarian side? >> eliot: the failure to act, do you think we'll lose them as it were, and will they turn elsewhere for support and say you know what, united states, you talked a good game but you didn't show up when we needed you and we'll find our finds elsewherefriendselsewhere. >> it's not speculation. it's a fact. the syrian army came out and publicly criticized the administration for promising to deliver non-lethal a
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patty, of course, famous for taking on the president of the united states on this very issue. i always admire this lady's guts for doing that. here, and, patty, you had a chance, i don't know if you watch all of the democratic convention, but to the president's point that by dialing back on attacking business or trying to say nice things about entrepreneurs, people like yourself, your colleagues here today, that this is a different president with a different message. what do you think of that? >> yeah, i think there was a lot of rhetoric. i didn't hear the details. it was interesting to me that, you know, the message of hope and change has gone away, and now he says, you know, just hope, hope that i can get it right in this second term. so, yeah, i don't -- i think they just told us what we wanted to hear and wavedded the flag and nothing's going to change. neil: you are shaking your head, butch. >> it's about hope. we hope we get it right. i heard four years ago, if it's not done in first three years, i will not run again. here we are again. neil: what did you want to hear? >
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that the united states accelerates this movement. we will have the opportunity to lead and again export. in health care, we are going to build on the electronic all medical records. keep things being the utilization of that data for comparative attractiveness. utilizing a strategic ban with approach to big band with applications to make sure believed in things like kinetics existing -- sequencing. or using 4k cameras that can improve how we monitor certain people. we want to accelerate pharmaceutical and the nation which is now possible. but to make sure that government eliminates a restrictions on network based medicines and provide incentives for more utilization. dickey in education is to use data for personalization. we need to accelerate the movement to digital content. we need to require constant assessment and enable transparency for parents and teachers to constantly evaluate material which would not be possible on an analog platform. we talked about how we can provide incentives and we suggest moving some of the funding to f
that the united states accelerates this movement. we will have the opportunity to lead and again export. in health care, we are going to build on the electronic all medical records. keep things being the utilization of that data for comparative attractiveness. utilizing a strategic ban with approach to big band with applications to make sure believed in things like kinetics existing -- sequencing. or using 4k cameras that can improve how we monitor certain people. we want to accelerate...
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mom nicky came to the united states when she was 8 from the former soviet union. she says the early memories in the united states helped shape her current views. she believes passion naately inr rights and freedoms. if politicians want to know about the women's vote, they can stop by and ask her. >> we care about the same issues as men care about. we don't want to be targeted as some kind of special interest group. we are not. we are people. we are americans. we are people trying to make a living and trying to support our families. that's no different from any man. >> she's followed and blogged about the democratic and republican national conventions. what would it take to get your vote? >> for each of them to put forth a balanced budget that cuts spending, that reduces our debt, that reduces our deficit, and that puts our country on a secure economic footing. without that, it's just more talk. >> women matter. they may be what puts president obama over the top. 54% of women leaning towards the president. 42% to mitt romney. republicans hope to close the gender ga
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he's the president of the united states and next day he wakes up 368,000 more people have given up looking for work in addition to the other hundreds of thousands that have given up. that's a complete contradiction to the whole mood of this convention and turned the corner and give me two more years, we're on the right track. those numbers are not on the right track and that's the reality of the american people have in their heads as they go into this. >> i agree with you on that, labor force participation rate, the low s since 1981, 65.3%. if that's the reality you're dealing with, jason, the case is, if we only do more of the same, then things will turn the corner, and we make progress, we'll turn the corner and if that persuades them-- >> perhaps. the question, to get back to what kim said, those arguments were made at the convention, obama didn't make them in his speech, but they were made by others and the question is, is that good enough or do people need to hear it from the president. but i think particularly in the case about, you know, i was-- i inherited this mess and clinton of
he's the president of the united states and next day he wakes up 368,000 more people have given up looking for work in addition to the other hundreds of thousands that have given up. that's a complete contradiction to the whole mood of this convention and turned the corner and give me two more years, we're on the right track. those numbers are not on the right track and that's the reality of the american people have in their heads as they go into this. >> i agree with you on that, labor...
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states senate to the vice presidency of the united states. we all know from his incredible speech last night that he has been side by side with the president, fighting to make sure we open the doors of opportunity for all americans working to create good jobs and to invest in education to make health care and retirement and schools affordable for everyone. it is what he fought for his entire career. we know that joe biden is also a very smart person. we know this because we have met the women that he married. -- woman that he married. isn't she great? when she and michelle back together to support military families, they made this country so proud. they have made such a great difference for military families across the country. i have one problem with barack obama's choosing to buy in as his vice president. i never got to serve with him in the united states sent -- senate. i am proud to be here to introduce our vice president, a person who is one of new hampshire pose the greatest friends, who has been a great vice president, joe biden. ♪ >
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they left the united states and went to mexico and supposed to be tracked to gun cartel. two of those guns were found in the murder scene. >> this statement from representative issa. this is one more step to justice for the family of briantery. ultimately not only the bandid but those who put the gun in their hand must be held accountable. peter doocy is following the story. >> jesus mesa is in the custody of mexican authorities who apprehended him. five men are charged with the murder of u.s. border patrol agent brian terry. they are not saying which man fired the fatal shot. but all of the five then crossed the southern border to run drug smugglers and was spotted by the u.s. border patrol who engaged them in a fight that left agent terry dead. two of the suspects left behind were linked to a united states justice department sting fast and furious designed to let bad guys bay -- buy the guns and go across the border and hope they would build cases against the leader of drug cartel. they are trying to find out who is to blame for fast and furious. but president obama exe
they left the united states and went to mexico and supposed to be tracked to gun cartel. two of those guns were found in the murder scene. >> this statement from representative issa. this is one more step to justice for the family of briantery. ultimately not only the bandid but those who put the gun in their hand must be held accountable. peter doocy is following the story. >> jesus mesa is in the custody of mexican authorities who apprehended him. five men are charged with the...
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in the united states though we have only two parties represented in congress plus two independents joe lieberman and bernie sanders so why is that how have other democracies been able to break the two party to optimally that we here in america have not been able to well it in america we have something called first past the post elections are winner take all asians take the house of representatives for example there are four hundred thirty five seats each corresponding to a specific congressional district district a list of candidates run for office whatever candidate gets the most votes wins the one seat that's up for grabs and everyone else loses and gets nothing. even if the winner wins by just one vote he wins it all the loser gets nothing that's a winner take all election but only a handful of democracies actually nine of them have winner take all actions like we do in the united states in fact in more than ninety other democracies around the world they don't have winner take all actions like we do they have something called proportional representation and that's one key to breakin
in the united states though we have only two parties represented in congress plus two independents joe lieberman and bernie sanders so why is that how have other democracies been able to break the two party to optimally that we here in america have not been able to well it in america we have something called first past the post elections are winner take all asians take the house of representatives for example there are four hundred thirty five seats each corresponding to a specific...
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i know this sounds odd, but i just had this strange feeling he could be president of the united states someday and i always joke that he was at the track with me whenever i go. >> when obama ran in 2004 for the united states senate, david axelrod signed on as his media adviser. the little known candidate with the unusual name defeated a half dozen rivals to win the democratic nomination. >> thank you! >> obama's come from behind victory won him wide taepattent. he soon got a call to deliver the keynote at the democratic national convention. >> as soon as he hung up, he said, i know what i want to sayment i want to wrap up my story in the american story. for the next three weeks, he was writing on little pieces of paper and he pulled it all together. >> in the red states and blue stalts, red states for republicans, blue states for democrats. i've got news for him, too. we were an awesome guy in the blue states and we don't like federal agents poking around in our libraries in the red states. >> there were people who were kind, and halfway through i said, this guy's life is changed and i
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states of america, only our military could have pulled this off and it was a great statement to the world and to the american people and it does come. >> rose: and of the president's support, respect and support for the military men and women who were involved in that mission. >> right. >> rose: that they could do it. he understood the risk but he believed in them, because he put his -- he put the country to a risk in a degree because gates said this to me, it might have affected because of pakistan it may have affected what happened in afghanistan. >> oh, absolutely, yes. >> rose: an he was recommending, it is easier to just go and bomb the place and level it. >> right. and the president chose another way. >> he had total faith in the military's ability to pull this off. that wever a queion in his mind. i mean, once they went through and we have seen our military perform over there every night doing these sort of missions in many different ways, this was a unique one, but there are a lot more threatening ones that they do every night than even this one, so it was a remarkable exper
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most powerful catholic in the united states. he is the pope of america in many ways. he is very charismatic. is he very blunt. he went to the rnc and delivered almost the same benediction there and roundly criticized by the democrats. guess what? you want me to come to your convention i will come to your convention. he went it the democratic national convention and he delivered the same benediction and there it was, you know, the democrats are saying hey, what did we ask for? they got what they asked for. cardinal dollan wasn't going to soften his message so he delivered the very very hard antiabortion plank. >> pro-life plank. it was a pro-life plank. >> very much. good for him. that's what he believes and that's what the constituents in the catholic church believe so god bless him. >> laura: i appreciate it geraldo so much. factor flashback on deck. o'reilly goes one on one with a liberal nun who held a star well at the dnc this week. don't miss it coming up. >> laura: in the factor flashback segment tonight you may have seen sister can a money campbell a catholic n
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states! >> but with the economy still on shaky ground, obama decided this was an issue he needed to take on early in his presidency or forfeit it entirely. like ronald reagan before him, he knew the only way to make history is to make it fast. >> the time for bickering is over. the time for games has passed. now is the season for action. now is when we must bring the best ideas of both parties together and show the american people that we can still do what we were sent here to do. now is the time to deliver on health care. >> opposition to the bill was boiling hot, from the floor of the congress. >> the reforms i'm proposing would not apply to those who are here illegally. >> you lie! >> in town hall meetings across the country -- >> my whole family does not believe in this bill. we want the government out of our business, now. >> and outside the capital, before the vote. >> kill the bill! kill the bill! >> but in march 2010, the president prevailed, and signed the affordable care act into la
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instead we keep feeding resources into the criminal justice system in the united states and doing things the same repeatedly. and with the 700,000 people coming home from prison, they are going to very specific communities. communities that are disproportionately impacted. communities of color, poor communities, so it is not just the fact that these people have done long periods of time in prison and are not prepared upon return, but it is also the invisible punishment that we attach. the fact that you can't vote, go to public school. >> if you can't live in public housing you're going back to a poor community, or your wife or sister lives in public housing, you can't be together because you are no longer allowed to live in public housing. >> the communities that need the political power the most to get the resources responsible to the large number of people coming home are the same people with voter dillusion to those coming home. >> there are two sides when i think about the costs born, you made the point about the elderly, about the people who have served so many years who are unlikel
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and what the attorney is telling us is that he doesn't believe his client is in the united states because he would have been caught by now. he's an indian american and the attorney believes his client is somewhere in india. >> all right, gary, thanks. >>> a murder mystery also now in the french alps. a family attacked. two young girls survived including a 4-year-old who hid for hours inside the family's car underneath bodies. >>> a 7-year-old british girl could be the key to solving a chilling murder mystery. found severely injured outside this bullet-riddled car in a parking lot in the french alalps. a french cyclist was found nearby also shot to death. four killings in all. hours later, police realized the little girl's sister who was just 4 years old was actually hiding inside the car behind her mother's body too scared to even move. her 7-year-old sister is in a medically induced coma. i spoke to cnn's dan rivers about the case. what are the latest developments in the murders? >> well, there's a real profound sense of shock here in the quiet london suburb of clay gate. people still di
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. >>> it's my great honor to place into nomination for the office of vice president of the united states, my father my hero, joe biden. [ cheers and applause ] >> i move to suspend the roll and nominate by acclaimation joe biden as the vice presidential candidate. [ cheers and applause ] >> jennifer: let me just say i love joe biden. that was him tearing up at the convention last night, as his son beau who is also the attorney general of delaware nominated his father his hero for a second term. the pundits have spent a lot of time rehashing the most fiery speeches, but there were also a lot of moments like that. here are some of our favorites. >> it's about whether we do for our fellow americans what my crew did for me, whether we'll look out for the hardest hit and the disabled whether we'll pool together in a time of need whether we'll refuse to give up until the job is done. >>> barack knows the american dream because he has lived it, and he wants everyone in this country -- everyone, so have the same opportunity no matter who we are, or where we're from or what we look like, or who w
. >>> it's my great honor to place into nomination for the office of vice president of the united states, my father my hero, joe biden. [ cheers and applause ] >> i move to suspend the roll and nominate by acclaimation joe biden as the vice presidential candidate. [ cheers and applause ] >> jennifer: let me just say i love joe biden. that was him tearing up at the convention last night, as his son beau who is also the attorney general of delaware nominated his father his...
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and what the attorney is telling us is that he doesn't believe his client is in the united states because he would have been caught by now. he's an indian american and the attorney believes his client is somewhere in india. >> all right, gary, thanks. >>> a murder mystery also now in the french alps. a family attacked. two young girls survived including a 4-year-old who hid for hours inside the family's car underneath bodies. i'll have more awkward conversations than i'm equipped for because i'm raising two girls on my own. i'll worry about the economy more than a few times before they're grown. but it's for them, so i've found a way. who matters most to you says the most about you. massmutual is owned by our policyholders so they matter most to us. massmutual. we'll help you get there. sfx: sounds of marching band and crowd cheering sfx: sounds of marching band and crowd cheering so, i'm walking down the street, sfx: sounds of marching band d crowd cheering just you know walking, sfx: sounds of marching bandnd and crowd cheering and i found myself in the middle of this paradeeet, sfx: so
and what the attorney is telling us is that he doesn't believe his client is in the united states because he would have been caught by now. he's an indian american and the attorney believes his client is somewhere in india. >> all right, gary, thanks. >>> a murder mystery also now in the french alps. a family attacked. two young girls survived including a 4-year-old who hid for hours inside the family's car underneath bodies. i'll have more awkward conversations than i'm equipped...
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states senate, to the vice presidency of the united states. [applause] and we all know from his incredible speech last night that he has been side by side with the president's, fighting to make sure that we open the doors of opportunity for all americans, working to create good jobs and to invest in education, to make health care and retirement and schools affordable for everyone. it is what he has fought for his entire career. [applause] and we know joe biden is also a very smart guy. we know this because we have met the woman that he married. jill biden, isn't she great? [applause] when she and michelle got together to support military families, they made this country so proud, and they have made such a great difference for military families across this country. [applause] now, i do have to tell you that i do have one problem with barack obama's choosing joe biden as his vice president, and that was that i never got to serve with him in the united states senate. but i am very proud to be here, to introduce our vice president, a person that i
states senate, to the vice presidency of the united states. [applause] and we all know from his incredible speech last night that he has been side by side with the president's, fighting to make sure that we open the doors of opportunity for all americans, working to create good jobs and to invest in education, to make health care and retirement and schools affordable for everyone. it is what he has fought for his entire career. [applause] and we know joe biden is also a very smart guy. we know...
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and what the attorney is telling us is that he doesn't believe his client is in the united states because he would have been caught by now. he's an indian american and the attorney believes his client is somewhere in india. >> all right, gary, thanks. >>> a murder mystery also now in the french alps. a family attacked. two young girls survived including a 4-year-old who hid for hours inside the family's car underneath bodies. you expect something $40in return. billionaire oil tycoons charles and david koch and their special- interest friends are spending $400 million to buy this year's elections and advance their agenda. what's their payback? politicians who will pass laws that benefit special interests, but hurt the middle class; more tax cuts for the rich, eliminate the minimum wage, big cuts to our schools, but big subsidies for oil companies, learn what you can do at... impact wool exports from new zealand, textile production in spain, and the use of medical technology in the u.s.? at t. rowe price, we understand the connections of a complex, global economy. it's just one reason over
and what the attorney is telling us is that he doesn't believe his client is in the united states because he would have been caught by now. he's an indian american and the attorney believes his client is somewhere in india. >> all right, gary, thanks. >>> a murder mystery also now in the french alps. a family attacked. two young girls survived including a 4-year-old who hid for hours inside the family's car underneath bodies. you expect something $40in return. billionaire oil...
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the united states has always supported those positions. obama's people pull it out of the platform and the president chooses not to put it back in. very significant. >> sean: what do you make of -- we have two issues. number 1, the reaction to what i thought was a pretty stale, boring, cut-and-paste speech last night and the issue of the economy, the economic numbers that came out today, i mean, a net loss of another couple hundred thousand jobs, when you include the people who have left the labor force. your reaction? >> well, i think that the -- to me, i suppose in visual terms, you are right, the defining moment is that vote. i think that is likely to be remembered. but i think that in political terms, the enormous blunder was when speaker after speaker said, yes, we are better off now than we were four years ago. and that became a logo of this convention and it is very clear that the american people dont agree. and fortunately, romney is alert to it. they are pouncing right away and in all of the swing states he is running ads, where h
the united states has always supported those positions. obama's people pull it out of the platform and the president chooses not to put it back in. very significant. >> sean: what do you make of -- we have two issues. number 1, the reaction to what i thought was a pretty stale, boring, cut-and-paste speech last night and the issue of the economy, the economic numbers that came out today, i mean, a net loss of another couple hundred thousand jobs, when you include the people who have left...